Specifications for the Polini Thor models
Most troubleshooting, assembly, & tips are the same as with the Top 80
General
Carburetor – The Thor 100 and 130 use the WG-8. The Thor 190 and 200 use the WB-37. The Thor 250 uses the Polini carburetor.
Compression, engine – 130-150 psi, depending on altitude. This is what you can expect for a new engine. Used will be less.
Cylinder base gasket – thickness 0.5mm, install gasket with the lettering facing down. Never use sealant on engine gaskets. It is unnecessary (manifold gaskets are the only exception)
Cylinder decompression port cleaning – use a #39 or 2.5mm bit. There are (2) holes that go from the cylinder to the exhaust port. The head gasket must be removed.
Cylinder head gasket – install with the ridge on the gasket UP
Cylinder Head Temperature Maximum (from Polini) 230°-250°C. These values seem high. It could be due to the type of gauge that is available in the U.S. (TTO) which registers a lower temperature. Under full load, I have rarely seen the temperature exceed 180°C and only briefly. I would start investigating things if the average running temperature exceeds 180°C. Continually high temperatures may burn up the engine.
Fuel filter Info – Use a 10 micron inline filter.
Fuel line/tubing size – Use Tygon® LP1100 Low Permeation Fuel Tubing (ethanol resistant). It is available from Miniplane-USA. Do NOT use ordinary vinyl tubing as it will become stiff quickly and stress the connections on the tank and engine. Auto parts stores do NOT have the right type.
- carburetor to inline filter to fuel tank ID 4.8mm (3/16") x OD 8mm (5/16")
Fuel pump vacuum – 5" Hg (dry) 7" Hg (wet w/ fuel)
Fuel Info – Note: The Polini manual specifies that pilots use unleaded fuel (the only kind available to pilots in the EU). We contacted Polini and they specifically stated in writing (available on request) that pilots may use AVGAS in any of their engines. AVGAS is preferred over gasoline containing ethanol.
Ignition, coil – The official Polini user manual states that the spark plug boot terminal to ground is 5K Ohms but a new Thor 130 measured 9K Ohms which means that the secondary wire is a carbon-core ignition noise suppressing type i.e. some Thor models may have different values.
Ignition coil primary resistance (all models except the 190) – 1K Ohms (blue wire to engine ground). The coil has electronics in it which makes this value difficult to measure so any value greater than 1K Ohms is OK. If you get no value switch the Ohmmeter leads.
Ignition coil secondary resistance – 9K Ohms ±10% (spark plug terminal to engine ground) Can be 5K Ohms on newer models.
Ignition magneto coil resistance – 290 Ohms
Ignition magneto voltage output – see the Ignition troubleshooting page on how to measure this AC voltage
Magneto – see "Ignition magneto voltage output" above
Mounts, engine – 30mmL x 30mmW x 8mm (stud x socket) There are (4) mounts, total
Muffler spring removal – Use paraglider line to stretch the springs for replacement/removal. Do NOT use pliers to stretch the springs because this will nick the tempered surface of the spring and weaken it. Here is a video on how to properly do it
Power output
- Thor 100 20.5 @ 8,900 RPM
- Thor 130 21.5 HP @ 8,800 RPM
- Thor 190 27 HP @ 7,400 RPM
- Thor 200 29 HP @ 7,400 RPM
- Thor 250 36 HP @ 7,500 RPM (Dual Spark engine 36.5 HP)
Propeller shaft, seal – 26 x 36 x 7 mm
Redrive oil – Here is a list of the correct oils that may be used in the Thor redrive.
Reed valve – if the petals get weak, chip, or break into pieces the engine will not achieve full power or may not run or start.
Spark plug (other than the Thor 250) – NGK BR10EG, gap 0.9mm (0.035") Pilots may also use non-resistor plugs e.g. B10EG/ES or B9EG/ES. The "EG" series plugs are designed specifically for 2-stroke engines and also reduce fouling but cost more. Use of a non-resistor plug will only increase the amount of noise created by the ignition that may be picked up by a two-way radio. For screw on terminals only: Be sure to put the terminal on with RED THREADLOCK or it will loosen and self destruct.
Spark plug Thor 250 – see the Thor 250 page
Special tools for the Thor engines. These include the special pullers used to disassemble the engine.
Starter cord – 1.8m (6') When cord is fully installed, wind the spool 3X to ensure adequate tension on the cord which keeps the pulley out of the propeller.
Starter cord pulleys – Harken 082 (superior to the OEM Viadana)
Starter mounting screws – (3) 5mm x 80mm and (1) mm x 25mm. However, the bottom 80mm screw should be replaced with a 90mm screw and locknut.
Torque values Thor engines
If you don't think you need to learn how to use a torque wrench, check this photo of a cylinder head stud that was pulled right out of the aluminum crankcase by applying too much torque to the cylinder head nut. The threaded hole in the crankcase was ruined. It was an expensive mistake for the owner of this engine. For help, take a look at this video on torque.
Note: The Italian paramotor manufacturers continue to use button-head screws on their engines, regardless whether they are needed or not. Button-head screws have soft heads which make them very easy to strip with a hex bit when attempting to remove them. Replace them with hex-head or socket-head screws, as necessary. Go figure....
A. Torque conversion chart of Nm to inch pounds and a conversion chart of Nm to ft-lbs.
B. Torque Tips
- After tightening to the correct value, wait (10) minutes and re-tighten. This is especially important where there are any gaskets that are compressed.
- Reduce all torque value by 50-60% with screws made of aluminum or short threads into aluminum,
reduce torque by 70% or more with screws into plastic.
- WARNING: button-head screws and studs CANNOT be torqued like ordinary screws. Use 30-40% or less torque on these screws according to the standard table for installing steel screws into aluminum. The correct torque is very important on bolts/screws that fasten together pieces that have great forces which can separate them e.g. bolts holding on a cylinder head or the nuts holding on a flywheel. Sufficient torque also prevents fasteners from loosening. Fasteners on ultralight engines cannot be relied upon not to loosen unless other measures are taken, such as the use of threadlock or wire. There is no fastener on a paramotor that would be life threatening if it should come loose but it would be inconvenient, at the least, or cause serious damage to the equipment, at the worst. This is why some nuts are the locking type and why BLUE threadlock should often be used. Use a paint-pen or nail polish to mark important fasteners, like the bolts that hold the engine on the frame. A quick glance will tell you if they have moved (loosened).
C. Threadlock – read this important page on threadlock and how to use it and when NOT to use it. Studs should be installed with red threadlock and torqued only 2-3 Nm. The threadlock is what holds them!
D. Engines running near or at sea level run hotter and have greater output which causes things to loosen more easily, especially the cylinder head assembly.
E. Torque values of common fasteners. If you do not see the particular screw, bolt, or nut below, use the general values in this table:
- M4 2 Nm (use caution with these small fasteners)
- M5 4 Nm
- M6 10 Nm
- M7 15 Nm
- M8 20 Nm
Carburetor screws 6mm – 8 Nm
Compression relief valve – 10 Nm
Crankcase screws 6mm – 8 Nm
Crankshaft nut, clutch side – 60 Nm
Crankshaft nut, starter side – 40 Nm
Cylinder head nuts
- 7mm Thor 100,130 – 14 Nm
- 6mm Thor 200 – 12 Nm
- 8mm Thor 200 – 18 Nm
Engine to frame button-head screws 8 Nm – 10 Nm – use Blue threadlock
Exhaust stud nuts 6mm – 10 Nm – use RED threadlock.
Magneto bolts – 9 Nm
Muffler button-head screws 8mm – 10 Nm – use BLUE threadlock
Propeller central screw – 40 Nm
Reed valve screws – 8 Nm
Spark Plug – 20 Nm DO NOT USE THREADLOCK ON SPARK PLUGS!
Starter mounting screws – 2-3 Nm It is easy to over-torque these screws. Threadlock is not necessary on these screws.
Maintenance intervals
General instructions
Changing the redrive oil and the spark plug are the (2) most important maintenance items that must be done. Use a Sharpie to write reminders on the top of the redrive (or
other semi-flat area). Any other method will not be as effective. The markings are easily removed with brake cleaner or mineral spirits. This way, you won't forget! You have an
hour meter/tachometer installed right?
A. REDRIVE SERVICING It is very important to change the redrive oil on schedule because it gets quickly contaminated with clutch material. If your clutch oil appears really black when you change it, increase the change frequency. Note that the redrive will use oil because of slight leaks out of the relief valve.
B. Below are service items that are particular for the Polini. Pilots would do well to carefully study the servicing intervals for the Top 80 which I have developed to ensure long engine life for any 2 stroke aviation engine. The carburetor and fuel system are the most common items that must have regular service. Failure to regularly service the carburetor can result in permanent engine damage.
C. The Polini Thor Flash starter is a disaster. See the Flash starter page for more information and (2) good, permanent fixes (one of the fixes costs less than $16). Later models may have fewer problems, hopefully.
First 10 hours
- Change redrive oil The exhaust assembly should be removed to get access to the drain plug. Use a cord to remove the exhaust springs. Remove the two button-head screws that hold the exhaust assembly to the frame.
- Starter – Replace the entire starter with this one. If you don't, you will wish you had. We have spent 100 hours attempting to fix this mess but there is always some new quirk that causes the starter to blow -- at the most inconvenient times.
Every year (minimum)
- Rebuild the carburetor The fuel pump will not work properly unless unless the carburetor is rebuilt often!
- Replace the inline fuel filter.
- Change the oil in the redrive.
- Replace the spark plug.
- Check the ignition if there is any question about engine power
- Replace fuel system tubing if ethanol gasoline is used and they are stiff. Hardened tubing puts a great stress on connected parts.
- Check the torque of the cylinder head nuts, especially if you run your engine at or near sea level.
- Closely examine the ignition wiring and connectors and make sure there are no broken or loose wires.
Every 15 hours – change spark plug if AVGAS must be used
Every 25 hours
- Replace spark plug DO NOT FORGET TO USE RED THREADLOCK ON THE TOP TERMINAL! It WILL loosen. A bad plug will work fine until the engine is at or near WOT.
- Rebuild the carburetor – pilots would be surprised how at quickly the guts of these diaphragm carburetors go bad.
- Change redrive oil (change every year, at a minimum). Note: The drain plug can only be removed if the muffler assembly is removed. Remove the springs and the two button-head screws which attach the system to the engine. Tighten the oil fill plug on top of the redrive just snug. If you over-tighten the plug, the gasket will be ruined and it will constantly leak oil. When the gasket fails, a 11mm ID O ring will work even better.
- Replace muffler springs, as needed. They must be examined carefully for wear or damage.
- Clean air filter (if you fly at the beach or in a dusty environment, you may have to clean this filter more often)
- Flash starter – be sure it is not about to self-destruct. It will be move difficult to pull and may not catch well. If there are any doubts, take it off and inspect it. Don't say, "Had did not warn me!" when the starter blows up and destroys other engine parts e.g. the fan, the shroud, the pulleys, the propeller, and your nerves. See the Flash starter page.
- Starter pulleys – these pulleys are poor quality and will wear out quickly if not regularly lubricated with spray white lithium grease or light oil.
Every 50 hours
- Check/replace rubber mounts on engine and exhaust system, as needed. Cracks in the rubber mounts may be difficult to see.
- If AVGAS is used WITHOUT the TCP additive, check the decompression port (DCP) and clean it, if necessary, with a 2.5mm (#39) drill bit in the Thor 130, 190, and 200 models. Failure to clean the DCP will result in greatly increased effort needed to start the engine and will cause premature wear of the starter system. If unleaded fuel is used, this maintenance may be done every 100 hrs.
- Remove carbon and/or lead deposits from the top of piston and cylinder head. Failure to routinely remove deposits will increase compression, combustion temperatures, and will shorten engine life. If unleaded fuel is used, this maintenance may be done every 100 hrs. Alex Varv shows how to do it without removing the cylinder. However, I do not recommend using any sealant between the cylinder and cylinder head. I have never had a head leak when the "O" ring is new and installed properly.
Every 100 hours – this is an important and extensive service of the engine. Everything may be fine for 150 hours but then maybe not....
- Remove carbon and/or lead deposits from the top of piston and cylinder head if not done at 50 hours
- Replace air filter, as needed. If the filter is in good condition, clean it with soap and water. Never wring these filters to dry them!
- Replace starter rope if there is any signs of wear.
- Replace reed valve petals. You might get away not replacing them but if one breaks off it could damage the engine as it goes through it.
- Polini recommends that pilots replace the connecting rod bearing, the circlips, and the wrist pin. Here are tips on how to do this service. In order to do this, you must purchase the entire piston assembly. You cannot buy the wrist pin separately, only the bearing and (10) circlips! If the wrist pin has zero wear (as measured with a micrometer or digital caliper), just replace the bearing ($11) and the circlips. DO NOT REUSE CIRCLIPS!!! You will have to purchase a gasket set, as well. If you installed the exhaust manifold correctly in the first place, you will not have to remove it from the cylinder. Note that Polini changes part numbers, minimum quantity, and whether the part must come in a set e.g. the widget is $1 but you have to buy 5 other items you do not need for $50, much like what American vehicle manufacturers do. It is very irritating!
Every 200 hours
- Replace piston and rings if they appear worn. If the cross-hatch pattern is largely missing from the cylinder wall, re-hone it or replace. Wear here will result in less engine output.
Every 400 hours
- Replace all bearings and seals, if needed.
- Replace crankshaft if play is excessive in the lower wrist pin bearing. Noisy engines probably need to be overhauled.